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image class="left" url="http://www.imageafter.com/image.php?image=b9scripts024.jpg&dl=1"Bungie also confirmed exactly when players can expect Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris to drop. The Curse of Osiris expansion will be released on December 5, 2017, for PC, PS4, and Xbox One. At the moment, further details regarding new weapons or armor are unknown, but fans should expect to find out more in the run-up to the expansion's release in Decem
However, Destiny 2 was never going to maintain this reputation purely on its vanilla content, and developer Bungie has a timeline of expansion releases similar to the first Destiny . The first of these expansions is called Curse of Osiris , and this additional content has just received its first trailer (watch it abo
Developer Bungie has once again found itself in the position of having to apologize to **Destiny 2 ** gamers. The issue, this time at least, revolves around the game's latest expansion The Curse of Osiris and the way that the game has dealt with access to certain cont
Not that the standard version of the raid is not challenging enough, but the leveled-up iteration offers a little bit more for those seeking an even more hardcore Destiny 2 gameplay. And of course, the new mode also comes with a slew of some nifty new things that should make the Prestige raid more enticing for players. Bungie has already said that they do not expect everyone to clear out the level. However, these goodies might just give gamers the extra motivation they need to succeed in what would be their latest endea
On a blog post [[https://Destiny2mix.com/ reviews over at Destiny2mix.com]] at their official site, Bungie addressed the backlash. The developer attempted to explain why the changes were made in the first place and what is being done to fix them. The post sta
Microtransactions, the in-game purchase of virtual goods with real money, has becoming increasingly prevalent in recent years. First appearing in free-to-play mobile phone games such as Farmville and Candy Crush , recent years have seen microtransactions incorporated into console game series such as Guitar Hero Live and Deus Ex . Microtransactions, it should be noted, differ from traditional downloadable content (or DLC) in that they typically offer players a concrete advantage over other players, such as better weapons and armor, verses the different costumes and character skins commonplace to traditional
Beyond encouraging a "pay-to-win" mentality, the legality of microtransactions has been called into question. The State of Hawaii launched an investigation into Electronic Arts following the release of Star Wars: Battlefront II , fearing that the game's loot-crate mechanic - in which the players get random items from purchasable crates - might be seen as a form of gambling aimed at children. Similar concerns have been raised by a lawmaker in the United Kingdom , who launched his own investigat
While Creutz's analysis offers a financial perspective on the matter, it is no surprise to anyone involved in the gaming industry that microtransactions are unpopular. Recent releases such as UFC 3 , FIFA Ultimate Team and Middle Earth: Shadow of War all drew fire from fans and game critics alike for introducing microtransaction-based mechanics. Most gamers are not pleased at the idea of paying full-market-value for a video game but being denied access to content that is only accessible to those with more mo
Each class will receive a single set of gear after finishing the Prestige raid, featuring a solid gold base with a purple glowing accent. Interestingly, the loot does not seem to include any new weapons. The rewards are geared more on cosmetics than raw power, which may be a bit disappointing for some who are expecting to get something tangible for finishing the level, especially for a supposedly difficult m
The Destiny endgame features a variety of activities and playlists that we want to remain relevant to players as they grow more powerful. In Destiny 1 , as your character grew more powerful throughout each expansion, some of our best content, like Vault of Glass , was left behind and lost its relevance for players. We wanted a better solution for Destiny 2 , where all of our Endgame activities could stay relevant as each Expansion causes your Guardian to grow more and more power
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The Prometheus Lens weapon contains Prismatic Inferno, which means it fires "a solar trace beam that generates a damaging heat field that grows while the weapon continues to fire." What's more, kills obtained with the Prometheus Lens replenishes the weapon's ammo and even extends the beam its
Polygon notes that Destiny 2 players can no longer access certain end-game content without purchasing the Curse of Osiris DLC first (and presumably future DLC as well). End-game content, such as Nightfalls and the Raid, have seen their base power level requirements increase, with Nightfalls now requiring players to have a 270 Power Level. While they're still available to the general public, the Nightfall's Prestige variant, which previously required Power Level 300, now requires 330 gear, a level only people who purchased the DLC can obt
The element of chance inherent in these systems led gamers to question their nature as a form of gambling. The ESRB has since weighed in on the debate and decided that this is not the case. While their legality has apparently been clarified, the morality of targeted microtransactions remains up for debate. Now, Activision is looking to take the next big step of in-game marketing, via a system that can deliberately enhance or reduce your gameplay experience to encourage purchases of in-game cont
How interesting that this only happened after the fact but was such an easy, quick fix. And how awful for this to happen when hardcore players are already vocalizing dissatisfaction with the current state of the game. Even worse that first impressions of Destiny 2's first DLC pack (hint: its new location, Mercury, is tiny) releasing soon are not too positiv
Xur's location and gear guide for December 8 through 11 in **Destiny 2 ** is now revealed. For those don't know, Xur is an agent of the Nine and a traveling merchant who shows up every weekend at a different location, on a different planet, with a handful of new, Exotic gear. Typically, four items are available to players every weekend, and all the times can be purchased using only Legendary Shards. And this weekend marks the first Xur sale since the game's first expansion, Curse of Osiris , released, which means gear should be higher level than usual. This weekend, Xur is located at the European Dead Zone (EDZ) near Winding Cove. You'll have to climb a few rocks to get to the elusive agent, but it's well worth it for what he has this w
The Call of Duty series has long been a powerhouse in the industry, but last year's Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare was considered a relative commercial failure. With WWII , though, Activision has bounced back in a major
Nezarec's Sin (costs 23 Legendary Shards) is an exotic Warlock class helmet that has Abyssal Extractors, which enable users who get Void-damage kills to increase their ability energy recharge rate. As with most other Warlock gear, Nezarec's Sin is balanced across the board, with a legendary mod that improves weapon handling for energy weapons. Unless players want to upgrade their helmet, most Warlock users may already have Nezarec's Sin and would want to skip it this w
This system will affect the matchmaking process in games, factoring in player skill level, Internet lag, availability of friends, preferred playing styles, and so on. At face value, the system should improve gameplay, making matchmaking more personalized than ever. However, this patent is specifically concerned with using this matchmaking in order to push in-game sales. Part of the patent re
No mention of making up for the lost rewards or the monetization aspect here of course and there's another layer to just how bad this really may be. As [[https://destiny2mix.com/ destiny 2 patch notes|https://destiny2mix.com/]] 2 launched there were licensed tie-in merchandise (Pop-Tarts!) that came with things like XP boosters and the Eververse store also sells consumable, time-limited boosters called Fireteam Medallions and knowing that Bungie was stealing back XP earned, that effectively means these real-money purchases they were stealing back as well. Now it makes sense why the Fireteam Medallion descriptions don't reveal how much more of anything it really gives you. Perhaps it's nothing at


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The Prometheus Lens weapon contains Prismatic Inferno, which means it fires "a solar trace beam that generates a damaging heat field that grows while the weapon continues to fire." What's more, kills obtained with the Prometheus Lens replenishes the weapon's ammo and even extends the beam its
Polygon notes that Destiny 2 players can no longer access certain end-game content without purchasing the Curse of Osiris DLC first (and presumably future DLC as well). End-game content, such as Nightfalls and the Raid, have seen their base power level requirements increase, with Nightfalls now requiring players to have a 270 Power Level. While they're still available to the general public, the Nightfall's Prestige variant, which previously required Power Level 300, now requires 330 gear, a level only people who purchased the DLC can obt
The element of chance inherent in these systems led gamers to question their nature as a form of gambling. The ESRB has since weighed in on the debate and decided that this is not the case. While their legality has apparently been clarified, the morality of targeted microtransactions remains up for debate. Now, Activision is looking to take the next big step of in-game marketing, via a system that can deliberately enhance or reduce your gameplay experience to encourage purchases of in-game cont
How interesting that this only happened after the fact but was such an easy, quick fix. And how awful for this to happen when hardcore players are already vocalizing dissatisfaction with the current state of the game. Even worse that first impressions of Destiny 2's first DLC pack (hint: its new location, Mercury, is tiny) releasing soon are not too positiv
Xur's location and gear guide for December 8 through 11 in **Destiny 2 ** is now revealed. For those don't know, Xur is an agent of the Nine and a traveling merchant who shows up every weekend at a different location, on a different planet, with a handful of new, Exotic gear. Typically, four items are available to players every weekend, and all the times can be purchased using only Legendary Shards. And this weekend marks the first Xur sale since the game's first expansion, Curse of Osiris , released, which means gear should be higher level than usual. This weekend, Xur is located at the European Dead Zone (EDZ) near Winding Cove. You'll have to climb a few rocks to get to the elusive agent, but it's well worth it for what he has this w
The Call of Duty series has long been a powerhouse in the industry, but last year's Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare was considered a relative commercial failure. With WWII , though, Activision has bounced back in a major
With Destiny 2's first expansion, Curse of Osiris, releasing December 5th Bungie better do something special next week in addressing this and the other game issues. Trust has been broken and at a time when big publishers are on blast for manipulating and nickel-and-diming players, this is a particular bad look on Bungie and Activis
Nezarec's Sin (costs 23 Legendary Shards) is an exotic Warlock class helmet that has Abyssal Extractors, which enable users who get Void-damage kills to increase their ability energy recharge rate. As with most other Warlock gear, Nezarec's Sin is balanced across the board, with a legendary mod that improves weapon handling for energy weapons. Unless players want to upgrade their helmet, most Warlock users may already have Nezarec's Sin and would want to skip it this w
This system will affect the matchmaking process in games, factoring in player skill level, Internet lag, availability of friends, preferred playing styles, and so on. At face value, the system should improve gameplay, making matchmaking more personalized than ever. However, this patent is specifically concerned with using this matchmaking in order to push in-game sales. Part of the patent re
No mention of making up for the lost rewards or the monetization aspect here of course and there's another layer to just how bad this really may be. As [[https://destiny2mix.com/ destiny 2 patch notes|https://destiny2mix.com/]] 2 launched there were licensed tie-in merchandise (Pop-Tarts!) that came with things like XP boosters and the Eververse store also sells consumable, time-limited boosters called Fireteam Medallions and knowing that Bungie was stealing back XP earned, that effectively means these real-money purchases they were stealing back as well. Now it makes sense why the Fireteam Medallion descriptions don't reveal how much more of anything it really gives you. Perhaps it's nothing at
It remains to be seen if this fix will satisfy all Destiny gamers. However, it does seem much more fair than what was initially instituted in the game. It allows gamers access to the modes they were enjoying before the release of the expansion. At the same time, Curse of Osiris owners get a little bit of special treatment for their purchase. Hopefully the second time will prove to be the charm and _Destiny 2 _ will not have more issues that need address
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Bungie has been establishing a much more intimate relationship with fans when it comes to information regarding Destiny 2 's future, so Johnson playing coy most likely means that he isn't being hyperbolic regarding the new gameplay mode. If Bungie hasn't informed fans about what to expect from the fall release yet, it's because it is a massive development. Destiny 2 features a detailed roadmap of its content plans that extends into the late summer currently, with no information regarding the expansion in the fall as of
With [[https://destiny2mix.com/ Destiny 2 Tips|Https://Destiny2Mix.Com/]] 2's first expansion, Curse of Osiris, releasing December 5th Bungie better do something special next week in addressing this and the other game issues. Trust has been broken and at a time when big publishers are on blast for manipulating and nickel-and-diming players, this is a particular bad look on Bungie and Activis
Established series have dominated video game sales in 2017 — other top performers include NBA 2K18 , Madden NFL 18 , and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild . WWII and Destiny 2 have received some positive critical attention alongside their commercial success, with WWII earning a nomination for best multiplayer at the 2017 Game Awards , and Destiny 2 racking up six nominations, tying it with Horizon Zero Dawn , Breath of the Wild , and __ Super Mario Odyssey for most nominations. ( Destiny 2 did not ultimately win any Game Awar
Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris sends the player to Mercury to find Osiris, who is apparently the most powerful Warlock to ever live. Taking place after the main Destiny 2 campaign has ended, Osiris should have some answers about how to defeat the Vex, the machine army that has come through a gateway at Mercury. Taking place as another narrative-driven experience, Curse of Osiris includes a new destination in the form of Mercury and its Infinite Forest, a new social space dubbed the Lighthouse, as well as new missions, strikes, raid content, and m
There's one more wrinkle to this story, though. Some time later, another Guardian from Osiris' time, an EXO named Saint-14, ventured to Mercury to find Osiris and learn what he was doing there. But Saint-14 vanished during this mission and no one knows what happened to him. It's possible that he could still be on Mercury, searching for or working with Osi
It includes: economy updates (vendors & acquiring their gear, tokens, legendary shards), investment updates (new reward systems for weapons & armor) gameplay updates, and more. (1/2)— Luke Smith (@thislukesmith) November 25,
Although the release of the new expansion should be a source of excitement, Curse of Osiris has been heavily criticized. The main point of contention is that with the release of The Curse of Osiris , Destiny 2 has now locked some of the content for players, particularly one of the end-game raids. This means it's impossible to access certain parts of the game without owning the DLC. This is notable because the content was free to access before the release of the expansion . This is the second major controversy to hit Destiny 2 as the game was previously taken to task for "rigging" the XP system . Luckily, Bungie does seem to be hearing Destiny gamers complaints and is taking steps to address t
Destiny 2 _ will be getting a major game mode update in the fall that will introduce a "whole new style of play," according to Activision president Cody Johnson. _Destiny 2 is already one of the most popular first-person shooter properties in the gaming industry, and is developed by Bungie, the studio behind the iconic Halo ser
"[The fall release has] an incredibly engaging new mode - one that introduces a whole new style of play for first-person shooter gaming generally and certainly for the shared-world shooter space that Destiny created. It's a really exciting developme
Currently, XP will scale up when playing longer or fixed duration activities like Crucible competitive multiplayer matches and the Leviathan Raid, and XP will scale down when playing activities that can be quickly, repeatedly chained, like grinding Public Events. We are not happy with the results, and we’ve heard the same from the commun
With the much-needed changes coming in Warmind (though there are still loot boxes...) and the potential for a genre-changing development in the fall expansion, Destiny 2 appears primed to recapture the industry's imagination. Activision, and Destiny 2 fans, will hope the game's third expansion follows the same blueprint its predecessor's did - Destiny 's third expansion, The Taken King , was hailed as the best the game had ever offered, winning over scores of fans and wooing players into returning for a significant amount of t
That means for two+ months since Destiny 2 has launched the game has been robbing players of a massive amount of in-game earnings that otherwise have a real-world value since they're being sold. And Bungie had it running this way without indicating anywhere that this was the case. Sketchy?


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Bungie has been establishing a much more intimate relationship with fans when it comes to information regarding Destiny 2 's future, so Johnson playing coy most likely means that he isn't being hyperbolic regarding the new gameplay mode. If Bungie hasn't informed fans about what to expect from the fall release yet, it's because it is a massive development. Destiny 2 features a detailed roadmap of its content plans that extends into the late summer currently, with no information regarding the expansion in the fall as of
With [[https://destiny2mix.com/ Destiny 2 Tips|Https://Destiny2Mix.Com/]] 2's first expansion, Curse of Osiris, releasing December 5th Bungie better do something special next week in addressing this and the other game issues. Trust has been broken and at a time when big publishers are on blast for manipulating and nickel-and-diming players, this is a particular bad look on Bungie and Activis
Established series have dominated video game sales in 2017 — other top performers include NBA 2K18 , Madden NFL 18 , and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild . WWII and Destiny 2 have received some positive critical attention alongside their commercial success, with WWII earning a nomination for best multiplayer at the 2017 Game Awards , and Destiny 2 racking up six nominations, tying it with Horizon Zero Dawn , Breath of the Wild , and __ Super Mario Odyssey for most nominations. ( Destiny 2 did not ultimately win any Game Awar
Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris sends the player to Mercury to find Osiris, who is apparently the most powerful Warlock to ever live. Taking place after the main Destiny 2 campaign has ended, Osiris should have some answers about how to defeat the Vex, the machine army that has come through a gateway at Mercury. Taking place as another narrative-driven experience, Curse of Osiris includes a new destination in the form of Mercury and its Infinite Forest, a new social space dubbed the Lighthouse, as well as new missions, strikes, raid content, and m
There's one more wrinkle to this story, though. Some time later, another Guardian from Osiris' time, an EXO named Saint-14, ventured to Mercury to find Osiris and learn what he was doing there. But Saint-14 vanished during this mission and no one knows what happened to him. It's possible that he could still be on Mercury, searching for or working with Osi
It includes: economy updates (vendors & acquiring their gear, tokens, legendary shards), investment updates (new reward systems for weapons & armor) gameplay updates, and more. (1/2)— Luke Smith (@thislukesmith) November 25,
Although the release of the new expansion should be a source of excitement, Curse of Osiris has been heavily criticized. The main point of contention is that with the release of The Curse of Osiris , Destiny 2 has now locked some of the content for players, particularly one of the end-game raids. This means it's impossible to access certain parts of the game without owning the DLC. This is notable because the content was free to access before the release of the expansion . This is the second major controversy to hit Destiny 2 as the game was previously taken to task for "rigging" the XP system . Luckily, Bungie does seem to be hearing Destiny gamers complaints and is taking steps to address t
Destiny 2 _ will be getting a major game mode update in the fall that will introduce a "whole new style of play," according to Activision president Cody Johnson. _Destiny 2 is already one of the most popular first-person shooter properties in the gaming industry, and is developed by Bungie, the studio behind the iconic Halo ser
Currently, XP will scale up when playing longer or fixed duration activities like Crucible competitive multiplayer matches and the Leviathan Raid, and XP will scale down when playing activities that can be quickly, repeatedly chained, like grinding Public Events. We are not happy with the results, and we’ve heard the same from the commun
With the much-needed changes coming in Warmind (though there are still loot boxes...) and the potential for a genre-changing development in the fall expansion, Destiny 2 appears primed to recapture the industry's imagination. Activision, and Destiny 2 fans, will hope the game's third expansion follows the same blueprint its predecessor's did - Destiny 's third expansion, The Taken King , was hailed as the best the game had ever offered, winning over scores of fans and wooing players into returning for a significant amount of t
That means for two+ months since Destiny 2 has launched the game has been robbing players of a massive amount of in-game earnings that otherwise have a real-world value since they're being sold. And Bungie had it running this way without indicating anywhere that this was the case. Sketchy?
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Polygon notes that [[https://destiny2mix.com/ Destiny 2 Beginner Guide|Https://Destiny2Mix.Com/]] 2 players can no longer access certain end-game content without purchasing the Curse of Osiris DLC first (and presumably future DLC as well). End-game content, such as Nightfalls and the Raid, have seen their base power level requirements increase, with Nightfalls now requiring players to have a 270 Power Level. While they're still available to the general public, the Nightfall's Prestige variant, which previously required Power Level 300, now requires 330 gear, a level only people who purchased the DLC can obt
Bungie's reputation with gamers is hanging by a thread judging by how they've been treating their consumer base lately. And the problem is that this isn't anything new for them... or for Activision. The developer employed the same shady tactics in the first Destiny game, and they got away with it, for the most part, which is why they've brought the same mechanic back for the sequel. But now that the gaming industry is under fire for its predatory tactics, with EA bearing the brunt of the industry's consumer backlash , Bungie deciding to use the same mechanics for Destiny 2 may just tip their fan base against t
What's more, Heroic Strikes, which are finally making a comeback in Destiny 2 , requires consumers to purchase DLC in order to play the playlist in the sequel. Considering that the minimum Power Level for the Heroic Strikes playlist is only 270, vanilla players should be able to take part in the playlist; all Bungie needs to do is make the Curse of Osiris strikes available as a separate option. But to lock both the Heroic Strikes and the Prestige Nightfall behind the DLC is unscrupulous, to say the le
Curse of Osiris comes on the heels of Bungie suffering overwhelming backlash for rigging Destiny 2 's XP system , with regard to players earning Bright Engrams post-Level 20, thus forcing them to " fix " the system. But they failed to mention if they would make it up their mistake to players by compensating them with in-game rewards that they lost out on. Unfortunately, Bungie seems to be doing the exact opposite, as they're now blocking previously available end-game content behind
Destiny 2 has spent the bulk of the past few months gearing up for the release of the Warmind DLC, which releases today. The expansion content will follow the journey of a Guardian named Ana Bray as she attempts to uncover a mystery in the polar ice caps. The story will eventually lead to the unveiling of the AI Rasputin, a key figure in Destiny lore. It's a huge moment for Destiny 2 , and will coincide with the game's entry into Season 3 of its content, which will provide updates to various equipment, PS4 exclusive PvE content, and m
In other words, Bungie locked the content behind the DLC because Curse of Osiris raises the level cap and consequently the difficulty. Bungie wanted the Prestige Modes to be the hardest in the game and require the highest level cap. Without the increased level cap due to the expansion, the levels of all players wouldn't be the same. Even though that does feel like a slap in the face to the gamers who have bought the game and now are being punished by having content taken away from them until they pay extra, Bungie thankfully sees the problem. Later in the post it was explained that changes are being implemented immediately to reverse the lock-o
However, Destiny 2 was never going to maintain this reputation purely on its vanilla content, and developer Bungie has a timeline of expansion releases similar to the first Destiny . The first of these expansions is called Curse of Osiris , and this additional content has just received its first trailer (watch it abo
Bungie continues working against players as they've now blocked select **Destiny 2 ** end-game content for those who haven't purchased the game's DLC. The game's first mini-expansion, Curse of Osiris , released this past Tuesday and came with new missions - as well as an increase in the game's soft level cap, from 20 to 25, and gear level cap, from 300 to 330 (gear can be increased by 5 using legendary mods) - in addition to introducing new higher-level, end-game content, such as Heroic Stri
Developer Bungie has once again found itself in the position of having to apologize to **Destiny 2 ** gamers. The issue, this time at least, revolves around the game's latest expansion The Curse of Osiris and the way that the game has dealt with access to certain cont
That said, others may be a little hesitant to see any major changes to Destiny 2 . Recently it was discovered that publisher Activision had patented a microtransaction-focused matchmaking system , which was seen by plenty of video game fans as more than a little manipulative. Although Activision has stated that it has yet to implement this system, there are concerns that it will only be a matter of t


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